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angeleyesprings 2 years ago

I've been having similar thoughts on this subject. I don't agree with 100% of your takes... but I'm also concerned about where this is going. It kind of reminds me of crochet vs knitted pieces in a way. Crochet cannot be done by machine whereas knit obviously can. But both have so much value when lovingly crafted by human hands.

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angeleyesprings 2 years ago

I'm also concerned about everything online becoming unverifiable, and AI flooding every site / search machine with slop (which is already happening). Tricky and nuanced subject.

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ongezell 2 years ago

Tbh, AI is just one of the symptons of late stage capitalism, even if AI wasn't a thing, shit had already hit the fan years ago. AI is just being used to replace people in sweatshops (mind you, not 100% yet because they still are still incapable of not producing slop)

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ongezell 2 years ago

Also, I don't agree with the AI thing being indistinguishable from an actual human made art, 9.99 out of 10, AI art will be slop, maybe, high quality slop, still SLOP. AI art is just aalgorithms consuming and regurgitating art that already exists. you can pretty much and I kid you not distinguish art made by AI to art made by a human. at least if you are a artist yourself.

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ongezell 2 years ago

Mega corporations will use whatever slop they can get to get those few cents of profit tho, it doesn't even need to look good. so looking realistic or passable isn't even a problem

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cidoku 2 years ago

@amy I'm aware of that and while it's true that it's a cause for concern, search engines being flooded with slop has been a thing since SEO's been a thing (obligatory thanks g**gle for ruining the internet), and the damage can't be repaired. That's why I didn't mention it.

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cidoku 2 years ago

@ongezell I'm not sure if it's 100% distinguishable. Yes, slop is slop no matter what, but with some slight taste you CAN generate stuff that looks legit. It's fortunate that most people who generate art aren't artists, and most importantly, have no taste.

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cidoku 2 years ago

@ongezell but here's the thing: most people aren't artists, so slop WILL end up winning out as it becomes easier to produce and especially more profitable to produce. "Consumers" don't care as long as it looks alright, and no creator will want or be able to compete against the endless, almost oppresive amount of slop! Unless... they prevail?

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cidoku 2 years ago

@ongezell then again I only have in mind people who do art for a living. Hobbyists will just keep on truckin no matter what since they don't depend on it.

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ongezell 2 years ago

My point is, AI is a symptom not a cause. I don't actually believe AI is that much of a threat to Us, the threat is in the hands of those developing it. I honestly don't see AI endangering us more than any of the existing average suspects (mega corporations) that being said I honestly don't believe AI will get better than this too honestly.

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ongezell 2 years ago

If you take a notice on all the AI technology being produced, it's honestly just a fancy search engine at best and even then it can get pretty bad, just look at google and chat gpt with their products. ChatGPT is hot garbage when it comes to anything that is actually just a little bit complicated, gemini? lmao Not to mention the amount of energy this shit consumes

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ongezell 2 years ago

I don't know how to describe it but everything about AI is just so pathetic to me it doesn't even makes me worried.

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cidoku 2 years ago

I do agree AI is a symptom of this lovely anti-human illness we have as a society. As for generative AIs being crap, I would tread with care. There's no way that what they show us is the best there is. Oh, also, I didn't want to mention the energy usage argument because it's always tackled to the end as an afterthought, never the main argument against this stuff.

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rbuchanan 2 years ago

You may have erred in assuming that one of several functional corollaries fatalistically determines an essence of technology. We can't know whether AI is a truly effective succedaneum for human intelligence until it produces genuinely substantive works. At present, its imitative faculties are superficially applied without any profundity of style or substance.

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rbuchanan 2 years ago

Ongezell observes that most AI is slop; I'd contend that one of many reasons why is that those who opt to use it professionally (whether mendaciously or otherwise) are perforce uninspired. It's an easy means. I'll always collaborate with human artists because no AI can illustrate my stories satisfactorily. In that regard, I am by no means special.

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cidoku 2 years ago

@rbuchanan you're right in that my wording implies that I determine the essence of technology from AI; this is not so. I meant it more generally; AI is not the first or the last in a long series of anti-human technologies. As ongezell mentioned, AI is just another symptom, but not the cause.

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tapeykatt updated their site.

2 years ago

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cidoku updated their site.

2 years ago

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dc-blog 2 years ago

The moment I'm 18, I'm putting "DNI If You're Under 18".

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satyrwoud 2 years ago

Back in my day we pretended to be 32-year-old nerds with jobs on the internet as kids and we *liked* it! :triumph:

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drawcia 2 years ago

^ Real, for the longest time I pretended to be +18 on the petsites I used to frequent because everyone else were adults lmao. On the following sites by minors, I guess it depends on the kind of site. I don't like associating with them, but if the site is impersonal (ie a portfolio, purely informative on a series, etc) I don't see much of a problem.

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cidoku 2 years ago

Yeah! I also lied about my age back then. Maybe kids don't care too much about it now since they were never taught to protect their identities to the extent we were, if at all.

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cidoku 2 years ago

@drawcia Sadly the sites I ended up following are personal. I don't think I'll unfollow them, because they seem "sane" enough, but I'll tread with care.

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ongezell 2 years ago

I wasn't expecting so many kids to be making their own websites here but there's a surprising amount of them

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satyrwoud 2 years ago

@ongezell I’ll be honest and say i was 13 when i first made my site — it’s a fun creative outlet that doesn’t need you to spend your pocket money on anything. (Then again, i had the sense not to put my entire medical history and personal details on there… 20YOWebmasterShakesFistAtCloud.webp)

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ongezell 2 years ago

I was too, but I guess at the time I was around adults way more than people my age lol here it seems that there's significantly more teens?

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cidoku 2 years ago

Well, I think it's good that they're making sites, anyway. They're willing to put in the effort to do so. Yeah, kids aren't stupid.

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rbuchanan 2 years ago

I'm among the oldest people known to me on this site, I'm indifferent to the ages of other users, and I'm not passing any baton to anyone because I'm going to outlive most, if not all of you.

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cidoku 2 years ago

@rbuchanan Be my guest. I'm content in my finitude.

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tapeykatt updated their site.

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hopeslair updated their site.

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tapeykatt updated their site.

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cidoku amapy

2 years ago

Que agradable pillarme a otro chileno por acá. Me leí el capítulo de tu webcomic y está genial, muy inspirador. Puse tu botón en mi página de enlaces. ¡Éxito!

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amapy 2 years ago

^_^ gracias!

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cidoku misterdizzy

2 years ago

I followed some of your tips at https://misterdizzy.neocities.org/blog/#responsive and, whew, my site really looks better on phones now. Nobody EVER told me it looked like crap before, damn! I swear, browsers should just assume some of that stuff. Anyway, thank you.

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misterdizzy 2 years ago

!!!! THANK YOU

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misterdizzy 2 years ago

I was hoping that would benefit someone striving for cross-compatibility. That's exactly what I was going for. Achievement unlocked.

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cidoku

2 years ago

I'm thinking about replacing the "people" section in my links page with a more traditional button wall because it's taking up too much space! I'll move the descriptions to a different page

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rbuchanan 2 years ago

You could integrate them into each title attribute of the buttons' (A)nchors, subsequent to respective titles

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cidoku 2 years ago

I'm not a big fan of title attribute because it's not universal; that is, it's not compatible with every browser believe it or not. For example, textual browsers ignore them.

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cidoku updated their site.

2 years ago

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luchovolke updated their site.

2 years ago

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angeleyesprings cidoku

2 years ago

Thoughts on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj54m_RWVhE ?

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cidoku 2 years ago

I'm not that happy about Mahou stealing Delicious Party's rightful spot in the movie but they gotta promote Mahou 2 I guess. Videogames seem like an odd theme for Wonderful, but maybe it's to give them enemies they can actually fight? I trust the CGI will be good; Toei has always delivered there, and I like how the CGI is more on model than, say, in the Mahou CGI short. Either way, let's look forward to it!

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cidoku 2 years ago

Although if I can be completely honest with you, I wish they'd stop doing crossovers in the main movies...

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angeleyesprings 2 years ago

Honestly, I'm okay with cameos in the mainline movies, but do sometimes wish crossovers weren't a thing outside of All Stars... well I guess that's hypocritical since I loved the Snow Princess movie. Video games seemed randomed to me too, but it's worth seeing the cute games Yuki, Komugi, and Daifuku get to play in the trailer. Does this mean Daifuku's a midseason I wonder? Poor DeliPuri girls, but I am-

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angeleyesprings 2 years ago

also excited to see Maho 2 next year. Feels like a good time to be a fan lol

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cidoku 2 years ago

I will watch it, to see what they can do with it. I didn't like Mahou because it seemed like they had all this worldbuilding and INCREDIBLE character designs and did... nothing with it?

cidoku 2 years ago

As for Daifuku, I think everyone's expecting him and Satoru to become cures, but it's becoming more unlikely by the second. Perhaps Daifuku will be a movie exclusive. Toy leaks indicate more of a focus on Nico-sama; who knows if SHE will become the fifth?

cidoku

2 years ago

Bring back romanticism.

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misterdizzy cidoku

2 years ago

>javascript isn't my thing - EMBRACE THE DARKNESS

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cidoku 2 years ago

Never EVER!

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rbuchanan 2 years ago

Nah

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tapeykatt updated their site.

2 years ago

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tapeykatt updated their site.

2 years ago

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tapeykatt thenitpickycat

2 years ago

Thanks for the follow!

cidoku updated their site.

2 years ago

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cidoku 2 years ago

Added the kindle 3.0 browser to the list of browsers I've tested the site on and added a banner to the home page. Maybe it'll stay, maybe not. We'll see.

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rbuchanan 2 years ago

I love your "Any browser" page. I just test my pages in Dillo and textual browsers like links, lynx, w3m, etc., but your dedication to maximized compatibility is remarkable, and possibly singular.

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tapeykatt updated their site.

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tapeykatt 2 years ago

If y'all didn't notice the update, the favicon changed.

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cidoku

2 years ago

I don't understand why people use third party image hosts on Neocities.

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ongezell 2 years ago

Neocities CDN is a bit lacking, it goes nuts requesting anything above 6+ hq images if you are not particularly close to their servers (Any person that isn't in North America)

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saint-images 2 years ago

With all of my photo galleries I would exceed the 1gb limit in a few months even with thumbnails alone. Though I do use it for everything other than photos.

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rbuchanan 2 years ago

For capacity (inter alia) remitment of 5bux/mo is actually a much easier option, esp. considering that I host a mirror here....

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cidoku 2 years ago

@ongezell I understand, but people are using cdns for icons, buttons, and the like... is it really worth it?

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cidoku 2 years ago

@saint-images yeah your use case is completely understandable. To think that without a 3rd party host we wouldn't have your photography...

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ongezell 2 years ago

dunno, I myself host all the assets of my main page on github (It loads REALLY fast) and on top of that I also use cloudflare. it works for me, whenever I want to add new stuff I just place the files on a local folder and push it to the repo

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