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8 months ago

Hey guys where are we gonna chat while Nightscape is down? 👀

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onio 8 months ago

https://cyberspace.online

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onio

8 months ago

Onio.cafe has temporarily transitioned to an alternative chatroom service until Chattable recovers from an attack. Wishing Andrew the best with recovering full Chattable functionality!

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onio 8 months ago

Cakebot has been sent on a vacation, hopefully he returns less grumpy about cake.

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greenapl 8 months ago

cool picture yo

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onio 8 months ago

ty it makes me feel like a kid again

win1999 8 months ago

Obligatory Comic Sans fact: The font was designed specifically for Microsoft Bob, but didnt make the deadline to be included and was left out.

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onio 8 months ago

@win1999 why is that so funny to me, it's like he missed his seat on the bus

chattable

8 months ago

A user with the email criansari3@gmail.com (IP: 67.190.30.191) has been attacking our Firebase database relentlessly for weeks now. Since the new year, attacks have ramped up and accrued costs of $7.50 in just 3 days. At that rate, it would be expected that it would cost $75/month to keep the database online. Being that Chattable is a free project funded by my own paycheck, this is unsustainable.

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chattable 8 months ago

The database will remain down until further notice.

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tommypanzram 8 months ago

Cloudflare an option you're open to? I know their free plan has ddos protection.

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tommypanzram 8 months ago

Also, Discord?

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kyrn0v 8 months ago

NOOO I was just planning to add a chatbox :<

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win1999 8 months ago

Have you reached out to Google/Firebase on the matter? Can't you ban their IP/email?

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chattable 8 months ago

I have reached out to Firebase, the attacker has been jumping VPNs since their home IP was leaked. Firebase won't do anything, Firebase also can't be looped through cloudfare, the server is fine but the database is hosted by Firebase which offers no spam protection

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chattable 8 months ago

The only real option is to prevent the public from reading chat data directly from the database and loop all read requests through my server. I did this with writes when I switched to a backend. So expect a similar amount of downtime since then

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win1999 8 months ago

Hmmm. You could 1) Firebase App Check. A good way to block scripts/bots regardless of their VPN 2) Backend Proxy. Moving reads to your backend, and then you could use Cloudfare Free Bot Shield 3) UID Ban in Rules. Hardcode a "deny" in your security rules? Firebase wont charge for requests blocked by rules.

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kirbydogs 8 months ago

* This Immovable Object Must Be: Terminated * I Don't Have Any Cages LMAO

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kiwimeowo 8 months ago

I thought I messed up my code, but it's apparently broken on all of chattable? I hope this issue will be resolved soon, good luck!

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kuroi 8 months ago

Can someone please explain to me why, WHY is someone attacking a free chat tool FOR WEEKS? Hope you can sort this out soon :/

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chattable 8 months ago

The following steps will be to migrate from Firebase and fully host the database on my server. Bear with me, as it will be a lengthy process leaving Firebase. If you need any data (chat data or account data) from our database (or want it removed) email us

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onio 8 months ago

So sorry Andrew :/

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everythingkris 8 months ago

Why the flip would somebody attack a free service like this? Sorry you have to go through this Andrew.

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lindley 8 months ago

so sorry this is happening!! hope you can figure it out soon, big chattable fan over here :)

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chattable 8 months ago

To put into perspective, with tens of thousands of users costs usually float around $0.03/day or $0.40/month for the database alone. I also have to maintain server costs, domain costs, private email costs, and more

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tommypanzram 8 months ago

What would 1 year of operations costs be for you, all things considered?

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chattable 8 months ago

Without the attacks, all costs considered rounds up to about $810/yr ($65/mo for my server, $15 for yearly domain registration, $15 for email, and $10 maybe for database costs) however, with attacks inflating costs for Firebase due to excessive logins & reads, that adds $75/mo which adds another $900 annually. Not something I'd ask the public to fund. It's best to solve the problem than succumb and pay.

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chattable 8 months ago

That's only to mention $75 at the current rate of attacks, if an attacker had more machines they could exponentially inflate these numbers even more

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phelah 8 months ago

Oh hey wait, are you sure you should've put their Ip and email publicly here? Not trying to accuse you of anything I'm just curious if putting this information could lead to people finding them. It doesn't make sense why somebody would attack a free service like this, I'm genuinly curious why.

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tommypanzram 8 months ago

Holy crap, dude please set up a patreon or other monthly contribution page. A reward could be as simple as access to a community discord. I admire you for providing a free service, but you don't have to take on that financial burdon to provide it. I know you have a ko-fi link on your page but a $1 per month subscription seems like it could be more reliable than a one-time $10 donation.

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pastel-skies 8 months ago

Shiiii I thought Chattable was just broken, knowing a bad apple has been DDosing Chattable is just vile... hoping you can find a way to fix this mess, even if it means donating to help!

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doggyhell 8 months ago

sorry to hear youve been dealing with hell for no reason besides someone deciding to be malicious. we appreciate your free service dev!

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chattable 8 months ago

ETA: I have no timeline for this. With a change of work hours last year and a lack of motivation on my days off, paired with the amount of time & effort required to rewrite as much as I need to (to patch the abusable exploit) I just can not faithfully provide an ETA. It could be days, or months.

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kirbydogs chattable

8 months ago

UEE HEE HEE! THE CHATTABLE IS BROKEN, BROKEN!!! THE [[Free Chat]] IS BROKE!! OH, DEARIE, THE CHATTING PLATFORM IS BROKEN! HEE HEE HEE! YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT! Update: Oh not attacks >:| god it's that stupid brat isn't it (also why is Flowey here?)

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pinkishnet 8 months ago

hi spamton

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underwhite 8 months ago

I think it's jevil pretending to be spamton

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kirbydogs 8 months ago

wait are we just ignoring the very obvious mettaton

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onio updated their site.

8 months ago

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onio updated their site.

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onio

8 months ago

happy 3 years of onio cafe! oh, and HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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vivirinart 8 months ago

Happy new year and happy 3 years!!!!!!

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win1999 8 months ago

\o/

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nicegirlslumber 8 months ago

Happy 3 years anniversary 🩷!!

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kuroi 8 months ago

Happy new year and happy 3 years to the coziest neocities' cafe!!

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onio updated their site.

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8 months ago

Trakya.Neocities.Org has been swapped with Greenapl.neocities.org. Just a notice!

onio updated their site.

9 months ago

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win1999 9 months ago

Hey! I'm a thinkpad user too :)) I almost got a X220 to do a X230 keyboard mod but ended up getting a T530 for light coding and web work. Very excited to have a X210Ai coming in the near future :o

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onio 9 months ago

@win1999 that's cool! X210ai woaaah, is that the one with the custom motherboard?! I just sold the X230 on eBay! I think I'm going to go for the T430 and upgrade the processor to a quad-core instead of going the x230 route now that I've sold it

win1999 9 months ago

Yes! I sold a bunch of music gear that I haven't used in ages to pay for it. I didnt know you could put a quad-core in the T430. I wanted to try to do the frankenpad t25 into a t480, but jerks are hoarding parts so it's not really economical. If you dont go for the T430 check out the W530 as well, I think it can go to 32GB of ram, and quadcore :))

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onio 9 months ago

The frankenpad t25-t480 looks so cool, I'm interested in that too. The T430S/T430u are soldered cpus, but the normal T430 is socketed!

onio vibequest

9 months ago

Added a new fish + fish pfp, plus a couple other small updates!!

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vibequest 9 months ago

All the eggs you've been collecting may now be used as bait c: Merry Christmas!!

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onio updated their site.

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luneth-landing updated their site.

9 months ago

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chattable

9 months ago

Lore drop: Chattable started in 2020 originally as a personal project for my own websites. I wanted something modular where I could use it across any of my sites. Eventually, in 2021 Chattable joined Neocities as a public service for anyone to use.

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onio updated their site.

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onio 9 months ago

this update is for you, Floppyzyn

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